The fight to pass to meaningful health care reform in Washington
will ultimately depend on persuading moderate Democrats such as Reps.
Melissa Bean and Bill Foster while also enlisting strong support for a
public option from progressive members like Phil Hare.
Nonetheless, we're going to continue to keep an eye on how the
Republican delegation frames this fight (and affects public opinion) on
the local airwaves here in Illinois.
During an appearance on Fox Chicago Sunday last weekend, Rep. Peter Roskam argued that a public plan will lead to a "Canadian-style system if we go in this direction." Rep. Mark Kirk -- the author of a GOP alternative to President Obama's preferred plan -- issued a similar warning on WLS' Don Wade and Roma last Thursday, suggesting that the nation couldn't afford to pay for a comprehensive overhaul and that care will be restricted when the government inevitably "runs out of money." Kirk also compares outcomes in the United Kingdom and Canada with America's current system and says the U.S. scores better on one crucial metric. Listen here:
KIRK: But now that I’ve spent four solid months on this, there’s even one more important issue, which is: Is the system generating a greater chance for you to life or die when you’re really sick? Looking at cancer survival rates, according to The Lancet … you have a 54 percent chance of surviving cancer in the U.K., and you have a 63 percent chance in the U.S. We have huge delays for medical care in Canada and the U.S. and many due die in the wait. And if we socialize medicine -- many Canadians when they are denied care, they come here. But if we socialize medicine in the U.S., where do we go?
This type of criticisms mirror those made by the giant insurance companies ( who, for obvious reasons, are committed to protecting the status quo). For instance, in an email sent to all of its customers yesterday, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Illinois warned that a new government-run health insurance plan would "severely damage the current employer-based system" and "cause employers to lose any ability to manage the costs of coverage."
But when deriding the reform principles favored by Democrats, Kirk, Roskam, and the insurers omit some crucial details.
For one, none of the major Democratic proposals resemble anything like the systems in Britain (which employs most doctors) or Canada (where the government insures everybody directly). If the Democratic Congress passes health care legislation, it will be a hybrid system where private insurers will (theoretically) compete with a public plan.
Secondly, Kirk's emphasis on waiting times is misleading. While it's true that people in nations like Canada, France, and the Netherlands do wait longer than Americans for non-elective surgeries, there’s little evidence suggesting that those delays lead to less effective care. All people in those countries have affordable access to a specialist, too. Meanwhile, in America, our waiting times are hidden and our "rationing" is class-based. Ezra Klein dug into the statistics about 18 months ago:
In just the past year, a full 25 percent of us didn't visit the doctor when sick because we couldn't afford it. Twenty-three percent skipped a test, treatment, or follow-up recommended by a doctor. Another 23 percent didn't fill a prescription. No other country is even close to this sort of income-based rationing. In Canada, only 4 percent skipped a doctor's visit, and only 5 percent skipped care. In the U.K., those numbers are 2 percent and 3 percent. Few of our countrymen are waiting for the care they need, that much is true. But that doesn't mean they're getting it quickly. Rather, about a quarter of us aren't getting it at all.
Kirk's emphasis on cancer survival rates is also a convenient talking point, but it's not the most enlightening metric by which to judge the U.S. system. Writing in the Boston Globe this weekend, Jonathan Cohn points out that America's unparalleled success at treating cancer is partly a product of the "unparalleled amount of government-funded research in the U.S." (emphasis added). Any health reform bill that passes Congress won't limit that funding.
Cohn also points out that the U.S. does not compare as well in its treatment of other life-or-death ailments. He highlights data measuring “potential years of lives lost," which are compiled by specialists in an effort to measure how well health care systems perform. The results here in America aren't so stellar:
In a 2003 ranking of 20 advanced countries, the US finished 16th when it came to “mortality amenable to healthcare,” another statistic that strives to capture the impact of a health system. The Dutch were 11th and the French were fifth. These statistics are necessarily crude; diet, culture, and many other factors inevitably affect the results. But, taken together, they make it awfully hard to argue that care in these countries is somehow inferior. If anything, the opposite would seem to be true.







Comments
markg8 on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 17:29
We have public and private universities. We have government FHA home loans and private mortgage companies. We have government run Social Security and private 401Ks, IRAs, etc. In dozens of countries around the world public and private insurance works better and cheaper.
Damian (not verified) on Sun, 07/12/2009 - 06:31
I often remind (and then learn they never knew about) that we used to have private fire companies before we socialized our fire and police department. But your current examples of where public and private play well together are great.
rich (not verified) on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 20:08
markg8: social security is a ponzi scheme that is on the verge of collapse. And 401k/IRAs are a scheme backed by our govt so the financial industry can lock your money into their game for their never ending profits.
And look where govt guaranteed mortgages got us, a real estate collapse that has destroyed our economy.
College tuition has skyrocketed thanks to the govt loan programs. Graduates are now burdened with a tremendous amount of debt. I have heard stories where people were able to work summer jobs to pay for their college education -this is no longer a possibility and tuition continues to rise.
It is pretty clear that everything the govt touches it destroys. Health care will be no different.
Ellen Beth (not verified) on Wed, 07/08/2009 - 09:44
Social security is NOT a ponzi scheme. A ponzi scheme is based on payments from voluntary investors that are sure to dry up, social security is mandatory and will not dry up as long as Americans are born, grow up and get jobs. So, I can only presume that republicans who dislike social security don't want Americans to grow up and get jobs. Birth is the only thing they care about.
MJ (not verified) on Wed, 07/08/2009 - 10:28
For the life of me, the amount of misinformation on this topic just cracks me up. So much focus has been put on health insurance as the key to fixing the health care problem. Yet between 87-89% of every premium dollar is sent back out to pay for health services and care. If you really want to bring the cost of care down, which our government seems to have lost its focus on (including the President) then maybe we should be looking at this 87-89% portion rather worrying so much about 3% of each premium dollar and insurance company keeps. I am not saying that some reforms aren't needed for the insurance industry, but if all our focus is here then we will be in the same boat in a few years when it comes to the cost of care in this country. Until we get our system to focus more on keeping poeple healthy instead of waiting until people get sick to treat them, then we will always be dealing with an increasing cost model.
Damian (not verified) on Sun, 07/12/2009 - 06:36
Why is Ill insurance companies fighting so hard on a bill that would require the insurance companies spend 70 cents of every dollar on benefits? I agree that the focus needs to be on how we spend the money as well as who is spending the money. But as you say the misinformation is plentiful for a variety of reasons. A major reason is it is a complicated system, and any sound bites will not tell the complete story, it really does take some effort to learn what is real beyond talking points of the 'bad guys' (who ever you feel they are).
old dem (not verified) on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 13:05
I just received a mailing from my representative, Roskam, in which he wrote the following:
"Lowering health care costs, while not allowing bureaucrats to delay or deny your healthcare is one of my top priorities in Congress."
"We need to reduce costs through enacting tort reform and clamping down on medical fraud and abuse. Moreover, we must ensure the doctor-patient relationship and not allow a government takeover of healthcare. Government takeovers of helathcare mean bureaucrats deciding what procedures are allowed and how many are allowed each year."
What a relief to have obscenely salaried insurance company CEOs doing the deciding about what procedures and how many instead of those dreaded "bureaucats"!!!! I see that Roskam got Luntz's memo:
BILL MOYERS: I have a memo, from Frank Luntz. I have a memo written by Frank Luntz. He's the Republican strategist who we discovered, in the spring, has written the script for opponents of health care reform. "First," he says, "you have to pretend to support it. Then use phrases like, "government takeover," "delayed care is denied care," "consequences of rationing," "bureaucrats, not doctors prescribing medicine." That was a memo, by Frank Luntz, to the opponents of health care reform in this debate.
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